Lost BlackBerry messages

In: Blackberry

27 Jun 2007

bbsadI am a true BlackBerry lover but yesterday my BlackBerry curve did something very bad. Suddenly after a short call I noticed that the call log was missing in the phone application. First I thought I accidentally changed a setting but then I realized that it was completely gone.

After some checks I found out that not only that call log was gone but all my messages from two days ago backwards which means only the messages of yesterday and today were on the device. The address book and calendar entries were still there.

I did some research and found out that this happened to other BlackBerry users too – see here, here and here. It seems like this happens if there is not enough space left on the device. I deleted some unused stuff and I hope this will not happen again – from now I will check the free device memory more often under Options -> Status.

20 Responses to Lost BlackBerry messages

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awm62

July 14th, 2007 at 12:00 am

I had the same problem with my Curve:

With the release of the Curve, I finally made the jump from Palm and Windows Mobile to Blackberry to take advantage of its messaging capabilities. I have a brand new AT&T branded Curve (8300) with the same memory “leak” problem. A few days after purchase (and thus several days of SMS, call logs and e-mail messages), all SMS messages, call logs and a few e-mails disappeared. I then started searching the web for similar problems and it appears that this has been a common issue with the Pearl (and apparently now with the Curve, too). It would have happened again today if I did not remove the battery to free up the memory! Yesterday evening, the free memory was at more 20 MB. This afternoon, it dropped to 13.8MB. No change after I did turn/off the device. After I removed the battery, the free memory was back to more than 21 MB. There are several problems: Firstly, as soon as the free memory drops below 12 MB (the reserved space for “media” files), the Curve starts deleting SMS and e-mail messages WITHOUT any warning. Secondly, I have to remove the battery AT LEAST on a DAILY basis to avoid the loss of my messages. My operating system is up to date: v4.2.2.89 (Platform 2.4.0.39).I use BlackBerry BIS and I am not connected to any BlackBerry BES.

It is truly ironic that the reason I switched to Blackberry was due to its messaging capabilities; yet, that’s the feature causing major headaches. Over the last 10 years, I have NEVER lost any messages on my Palms nor Windows Mobile machines. I switch to Blackberry and I lost messages within days!

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tompson

July 14th, 2007 at 6:19 pm

I am using BlackBerry now for over two years and it was the first time I had to experience this bad thing happen. I had a 7290 and a 8700 and it seems like this is just a Curve (and Pearl) problem because my colleagues are using the 8800 and they never had this problem.

If somebody told me this story I would not have believed him – I hope there is a bug report at RIM and they are working on it. My device already is down again at 11MB free and I deleted everything I do not need.

My OS is version 4.2.2.90 (Plaform 2.4.0.35).

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andy

August 26th, 2007 at 9:36 pm

Has anyone heard about an update to fix this? I am having the same problem and hope this is addressed soon!

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tOMPSON’s blog » Blog Archive » BlackBerry Curve update

August 27th, 2007 at 11:28 pm

[...] and the platform version is 2.4.0.53. I hope that this update resolves the problem concerning automatically deleting messages and call log. Taking screenshots works already with this version and there seems to be more free memory. | Save [...]

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tompson

August 28th, 2007 at 10:33 am

I hope the Update I made yesterday will fix this problem – see http://dertompson.com/index.php/2007/08/27/blackberry-curve-update/

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Sultjap

October 3rd, 2007 at 4:34 pm

Thank God I am not alone on the planet :)

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Darren

May 31st, 2008 at 5:57 pm

Does anyone else have the problem that not only ‘old’ SMS and call logs are deleted, but also for a few days after new messages only appear in the inbox for a split second?!? and are deleted with no chance to read?? Can you let me know if there is any way to stop this!

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Sean

June 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 pm

I want to know too. I had this problem right after I got my blackberry device (over a year ago), and it just happened again today. If anyone has any idea as to how to prevent this, it would be greatly appreciated.

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tompson

June 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 pm

@Darren and Sean: what OS version do you use? how many memory is free on your device?

check under general message options how are your sms stored? theme controlled or in separate folders?

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mark

June 11th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

hey folks

i am having the this prob too, but with a twist at my berry media card is reading 1.9G total, 1.7G available. while the memory available certainly would be greater after all this disappears it certainly would not amount to 1.7G ….my berry is less than 6 months old, has not been abused beyond normal day to day wear and tear and randomly i lose call logs, Bberry messenger convos, emails, texts, everything….tho have never had the instantly disappear problem….

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tompson

June 11th, 2008 at 9:56 pm

@mark: this has nothing to do with the media card. only the internal memory of the device counts. the Curve has 64MB internal memory of which are about 20MB free

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Donna

August 14th, 2008 at 5:18 am

I have been having the same problem – my phone log hasn’t disappeared but email do – no rhyme or reason which or when – just a random wash of email. I have over 37MB of memory so that can’t be the problem. I have 2 email accounts on the device and it only seems to happen with my Outlook account. It is only 2 months old so everything loaded is new. Thoughts?

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SJS

August 14th, 2008 at 5:33 am

Hey Donna, my messages were being deleted by the phone every 1- 1,5 months… After having read the postings above I have bought 1 gig memory card… The problem disappeared, I had to delete my messages myself when the hhistory exceeded 7 m period and curve started to perform slower… so, its all memory issue (at least from my standpoint)pls try to do hard reset more often, and free up more space, cheers

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Donna

August 14th, 2008 at 5:40 am

Thanks – I have a 2 gig memory card in. I will try a hard reset. D

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Gil K

August 18th, 2008 at 10:28 am

I’m also a blackberry lover but latelly so much strange things are happen on my BB.
I’m considering moving to Nokia smart phone

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Meg

August 22nd, 2008 at 7:01 pm

i just got my pearl a month ago and today i woke up to a very unfortunate situation. my call log was deleted and all my text messages were gone! and even worse i could see that i was receiving messages but they would be deleted INSTANTLY. i tried sending a message from my mom’s phone to mine and again it popped up and deleted itself. i called the verizon support center and all they could do for me was offer to send me a new phone.. which for them may seem like a nice deal but for me is horrible. all my settings and everything i have set up in the past month will be gone and even worse i leave for college in a few days! not something i want to deal with at the moment.

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tompson

August 24th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

@Meg that seems like the same problem @Darren mentioned above. Maybe he can help you …

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annoyed

October 29th, 2008 at 11:25 am

I just got the Blackberry Pearl 8100 a month ago and this is happening to me – I’m brand new to cell phones, period, but even I understand that this should NOT be happening. I’m getting a new one in the mail because the manager of the place where I got the phone went all through it trying to figure out what was eating the memory and couldn’t. He wiped and and reloaded it with the updated software and I had lots of memory again…within hours, it was dropping dropping dropping again. Nobody can figure out why (I have NO applications added – I don’t even know how to do that! I have a micro sd card in there and any pics and.or songs are saved on that.), so he called and is having them send me a new phone within 3-5 days. Lets see if this one behaves itself.

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Darren

November 15th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

Hey all!

Found this on another forum – seems to have helped me with the same problem!:

RIM has identified a design problem with the way that controls within the media application have been implemented. In the media options (“Media Application” > Pick an application such as Pictures > [BlackBerry Menu Key] > “Options”) there are two settings:

“Reserved Pictures Memory” – Default Value = 10 MB – This setting reserves memory for Pictures that the customer may take. It blocks off the memory, reducing the “File Free” amount that displays in “Options” > “Status”. This guarantees that the customer will have memory available and will not overwrite email messages within the memory setting set.

“Device Memory Limit” – Default Value = 20 MB – This setting is a safety water mark. It prevents the customer from placing more than the specified amount of memory in their content store (pictures, ringtones, music, etc.. in device memory)

The implementation problem with these settings is that the “Reserved Pictures Memory” setting does not prevent the customer from going beyond the specified amount of memory. That is to say, if the customer has it set to the default value of 10MB, they are not prevented from taking 15MB of pictures for example. The only setting that will limit them is the “Device Memory Limit” setting.

The 20MB default value for this setting is a bit high as typically after loading the handheld software, the memory available is about 20MB. If the customer has a number of contacts, calendar entries, tasks, memopad items, emails, etc… they could have less than 20MB available. This means, with the default settings, the customer could fill their content store to the point that Low Memory Manager activates in an attempt to free up new space by deleting emails and call logs. If approached by a customer in this situation, please recommend that they reduce the “Device Memory Limit” setting to it’s lowest value of 12MB. It is recognized that even this value is high, and the values (including the defaults) are being adjusted in future releases of handheld software.

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Having a large amount of images, ringtones and or games stored in the device may reduce available free memory. If the BlackBerry Pearl’s memory is at or near capacity the handheld will begin to delete the oldest Call Log and Text Message (SMS) entries in an effort to free up memory space. In order to prevent this, free memory must be increased.
NOTE: Saved messages will not be deleted.

Determine the Amount of Free Memory on the BlackBerry

* If the amount of free memory available on the handheld is 0, the amount of free memory must be increased to prevent the handheld from auto deleting call log entries and messages.

Suggested Ways to Increase Free Memory

Reduce Allocated Media Memory

1. Scroll to and select the Media icon.
2. Select the Pictures icon.
3. Select the Device Memory icon.
4. Press the Menu key, select Options.
5. Change the Device Memory Limit to 12MB.
6. Press the Menu key, select Save.
7. Hard Reset the BlackBerry.

Reduce Calendar Keep Appointments to 60 days or less

1. Scroll to and select the Calendar icon.
2. Press the Menu key, select Options.
3. Scroll to and select Keep Appointments.
4. Select the desired amount of time to keep appointments.
5. Press the Menu key, select Save.
6. Hard Reset the BlackBerry.

Reduce the amount of time Messages are kept on the handheld.

1. Scroll to and select the Calendar icon.
2. Press the Menu key, select Options.
3. Select General Options.
4. Scroll to and select Keep Messages.
5. Select the desired amount of time to keep appointments.
6. Press the Menu key, select Save.
7. Hard Reset the BlackBerry.

Clear Cache and Cookies

1. Scroll to and select the Browser or Media Net icon.
2. Press the Menu key.
3. Select Options.
4. Select Cache Operations.
5. Select Clear History.
6. Note: Clear History will no longer appear once it has been selected.
7. Hard Reset the BlackBerry.

Delete Unused Languages
Note: If deleting both the unused languages and the sample video wait to restart the device until both processes have been completed

1. Scroll to and select the Settings icon.
2. Select the Options icon.
3. Select Advanced Options.
4. Select Applications.
5. Scroll to and highlight each of the unused languages under the Input Support and Language and Input Support subheadings.
6. Press the Menu key.
7. Select Delete.
8. Select Delete.
9. When prompted to Restart select No until all unused languages are deleted.
10. NOTE:Repeat steps 4-8 until all unused languages are deleted then select Yes when prompted to restart.
11. Hard Reset the BlackBerry.

Delete Sample Video
Note: If deleting both the unused languages and the sample video wait to restart the device until both processes have been completed. The sample video is the pre-installed video for the blackberry and is ~2.2MB in size.

1. Scroll to and select the Settings icon.
2. Select the Options icon.
3. Select Advanced Options.
4. Select Applications.
5. Scroll to and highlight “Blackberry Sample Video”.
6. Press the Menu key.
7. Select Delete.
8. Select Delete.
9. When prompted to Restart select Yes.
10. Hard Reset the BlackBerry.

Change Call Log Options

1. Scroll to and select the Phone icon.
2. Press the Menu key.
3. Select Options.
4. Select Call Logging.
5. Select either Missed Calls or None.
6. Hard Reset the BlackBerry.

Hope this stuff helps some folks… additionally you could also delete the even log… I just saw something about this in another thread here and after posting I’ll go check out the instructions.

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tompson

November 15th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

Wow, thanks Darren! I hope all the Curve users get this info … I switched to the Bold lately so I hope the problem does have no impact on me anymore!

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